Hoosier Habits.

[irwinisthebombyey]

i have noticed that Irwin has lots of cute little habits like running his fingers through his hair and talking with his mouth to the side and the way he smiles and the way he has his eyebrows when he sings (i know we already have a thread with this mentioned) and the way he ends lots of his sentences with "yeah?" has anyone noticed any other cute things he does or Al or Martin does? i think i will be all thetricktolifeish and make a list!
have you noticed their catchphrases too?

so:

Irwin!

running his fingers through his hair
talking with his mouth to the side
ending sentences with "yeah?"
his amazing smile and slight laugh while he talks
his eyebrow thing when he sings
"its not us its the rest of the world isn't it?"
crazy Irwin dancing.
funny accents like Chav, Posh and American.
very strong random faces when he is talking or someone else is talking.
swinging his guitar back and forth and tapping his foot while he performs
putting his finger on his nose in a jokey kind of secretive and knowing manner. (hee hee)
good listening skills! when you talk to him he looks like he is really listening and concentrating. aww!
stroking his chin when he is thinking.
biting his cheek.
touching his face when he is nervous.
saying "don't cha know?" in loads of different accents!

Martin

Hat wearing
Glasses wearing
Cute smile!
Crazy dancing like a "ferret chasing its ears" apparently!
tredding on the guitar cable thing during Irwin 10th guitar solo.
pruning his beard and pruning other peoples when he's not coal mining

Alphonzo

slient laugh
weird mouth gag thing
having a moustache?
looking at Irwin for reasurance when making a joke. how cute!
randomly tapping things in a drumish way.
nodding his head as he plays the drums.
puts his shoes on and off and switches the lights on and off 1000 times every christmas. (well, not really)
goat hearding, eating pasta and large moustaches.

[theHoOSiERs-x]

DAMN youuu i made myn 1st so yours should go i thinkk!
i made myn 2 minutes before you :D

[irwinisthebombyey]

yeah, i spent ages making this as you can see a lot of detail into the opening post with lots of Irwin habits.

[Jacqui024]

Martin could have a habbit of wearing hats?! And his cute lil' smiles! Awww :love:

I've noticed Al does this wierd thing with his mouth when somethings disgusting. For example when Martin and Al are 'arguing' over whos desert is nicer, someone says something like 'how does it taste' and Al like opens his mouth kinda thing? And then he does it with coffee/tea in the van another time...


In that last picture Al looks green! Haha.

-Im off, speak tomorrow with more Hoosierish stuff! & CAR VID! AHHH :D, Bye xx-

[thetricktolife]

his pretending to gag face!

Al has a silent laugh..
Like me.
Well at least a very quiet one

I think so anyways

[irwinisthebombyey]

h'ok! those are going on the list of hoosier habits! so Martin with his cute smiles, glasses and hat wearingness! Al with his silent laugh and weird mouth gag thing!

[thetricktolife]

Bev, Im going to keep deleting these comments
They are not appriopriate

if you have a problem
care to discuss it off this thread


h'ok! those are going on the list of hoosier habits! so Martin with his cute smiles, glasses and hat wearingness! Al with his silent laugh and weird mouth gag thing!

Is wearing glasses a habit?!
haha

Erm, Al always looks to Irwin for reassurance when hes making jokes

[irwinisthebombyey]

hey, i didn't delete your thread or change the name! i had an idea and we both made it without realizing that both of us were making it, it wsn't my fault and it wasn't your fault either.

[thetricktolife]

hey, i didn't delete your thread or change the name! i had an idea and we both made it without realizing that both of us were making it, it wsn't my fault and it wasn't your fault either.

She was aiming that at me.
So it is gone.

[irwinisthebombyey]

Bev, Im going to keep deleting these comments
They are not appriopriate

if you have a problem
care to discuss it off this thread



Is wearing glasses a habit?!
haha

Erm, Al always looks to Irwin for reassurance when hes making jokes

i don't know but i will put it on for the moment anyway because his other habits will get lonely! i'll add the Al and Irwin one now.

[thetricktolife]

Okay dokey!
hmmmm
I cant think of any at them moment
Irwin likes putting accents on

[irwinisthebombyey]

yeah like his chav one and his posh one and his american one.
what are some phrase that he always says? i can think of one or two at the moment.

[thetricktolife]

erm... candy flip flops?
haha, no that was only once
erm
Irwins Energetic Dancing
and Martins Crazy Legs dancing!

[irwinisthebombyey]

oh yeah! how could i possibly forget the crazy hoosier dancing?

[theHoOSiERs-x]

irwin always makes random faces while he speaks or another person is speaking his facial expressions are quite strong sometimes. |-|

[irwinisthebombyey]

what does |-| mean?

thanks for the contribution!

[theHoOSiERs-x]

Al olds his arms in alot of the interviews but mainly only when hes standing |-|

|-| = an emoticon i have on msn that is a face with evill eyes :p

[irwinisthebombyey]

ok..... how would i say that? just "folding his arms, mostly when standing" well, i shall just put that and i shall change it if i think uo something better.

[theHoOSiERs-x]

sounds good enough

[Jacqui024]

Irwin bites things...i can only think of the radio one video right now but there are more times i'm sure...
(Bad pictures im afraid)

[theHoOSiERs-x]

haha well he sort of bites his hand too doesnt he :p so maybe when thers nothing else to bit he just bites his hand :p?

[Jacqui024]

Just remembered...
Irwin's little stomping of the feet when playing live and kinda swinging the guitar back and forth...?!
And one for all of them, well mainly Irwin and Martin...clapping (?)

[theHoOSiERs-x]

btu they have to clap dont they because thats how the song goes lol ! x otherwise you could say al hitting the drums is a habbit ( he seems to do it alot in gigs :p)

[irwinisthebombyey]

right, so Irwin swinging his guitar back and forth while he perfroms, he bites things. Al likes to randomly tap things like a drum...

[theHoOSiERs-x]

haha well that was sort of a joke but you can put it if you want just saying like in their songs you need to play the drums but you couold say its a habbit that he like to hit drums with sticks :p

[irwinisthebombyey]

ha ha! well, he does kind of tap random objects sometimes.

[theHoOSiERs-x]

lol all drummers prob do that cos they need to practice and remember the beats my drum techer even said you should try and even play on you lap or tables and jsut generally practise you dont need a drum kit :p

[irwinisthebombyey]

yeah, my drum teacher said that to me too!

[theHoOSiERs-x]

cool lol *highfive*

[theHoOSiERs-x]

i just thought of one wouldnt al putting his shoes on and off and flicking the lightswitch on and off 1000 times be a habbit :p !?

[thetricktolife]

no, that would be "making jokes about people with OCD"

[theHoOSiERs-x]

yeah but you could put it anyway like the durm thing

[thetricktolife]

haha..
is it one of those habbits like wearing glasses?
lol

[theHoOSiERs-x]

oh rermm well i said cos jacqui said you know when they clap when WCS starts well and someof their other songs i mean its part of the music and jacqui said that it was a habbit and then i said thats like say in a song you could say one of al's habbits is hitting a drum with a stick he does it alot in songs but then he has to to make the music lol x

[Jacqui024]

Yea, well i thought i'd add in the clapping cause i thought of Irwin's little stomps...but hey ho!

[irwinisthebombyey]

no, that would be "making jokes about people with OCD"

ha ha! so should i put down that or that he puts his shoes on and off and flicks the light switcn on and off every morning?

[Jacqui024]

I dont think you should cause it's not a 'habit' as its not something he does often....kinda thing yea?

[irwinisthebombyey]

yeah, i could put it as a pretendy jokey habit. i shall write:

puts his shoes on and off and switches the lights on and off 1000 times every christmas. (well, not really)

or is it everyday?

[Jacqui024]

At christmas; the question is what christmas tradition do you do every year or something along those lines ;)

[theHoOSiERs-x]

i cant be bothered to check if you already pu thi but irwin says 'martin has a habbit of treading on his guitar lead during his solos' something like that that wou.ld be a habbit though it may just be another joke :p

[irwinisthebombyey]

oh yeah i remember that, during Irwins 10th guitar solo! i think i'll put it down anyway.

[theHoOSiERs-x]

yay i contributed lol

[Jacqui024]

Yea in WITLO part 2 Irwins like 'Anyway, I'm a bit annoyed at Martin cause he has a habit of treading on my lead and pulling it out just during my tenth solo of the night'

[irwinisthebombyey]

hee hee! and one for Martin as well which is quite difficult, we only have 5 or something for him!

[Jacqui024]

We could also write what they 'enjoy' doing...

At the start of WITLO part 2 the 'voice over man' says that Alan likes; goat hearding, eating pasta and large moustaches. Martin likes; pruning his beard and pruning other peoples when he's not coal mining :lol:

BAD idea i know but i thought i would try and increase the number of things on Martins list! :)

[irwinisthebombyey]

ha ha! ok, i'll add them now! it is so fun editing it and adding things to the list!

[Jacqui024]

I've noticed that during Interviews when they're sitting down,
AlfonsoBonzo always crosses his legs, like one over the other, not like Irwin did in Album Chart Show :p I'm not sure if thats classed
as a 'habbit' but yea, he seems to do that a lot...

[theHoOSiERs-x]

they all seem to do that alot and martin normally doesnt properly cross his legs
but yeah
irwin was so cute when he at their with his legs like properly crossed !

[singing chick]

hey guys i bet i can find a pic of martin being a scardy cat?:mod: :rapture:

[IRWIN SPARKES ROCKS]

i have notice irwin with his gutair alot in worried about ray. see it 4 your self.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nApY3JeUOlU

[singing chick]

oh gimme a break irwin sarkes rocks it just a guitar nothing to do with you or me now lets talk about irwins wierd finger. go onto you tube and watch love us by the hoosiers and you'll see the finger go of there and how about you go to the finger thread then you'll see some crazy pics there.:rapture: :rockon:

[taennchen]

just to add... has anybody noticed that irwin sometimes is tiptoeing when he sings up high? So cute ;)

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

i have notice irwin with his gutair alot in worried about ray. see it 4 your self.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nApY3JeUOlU

oh flip this will be confusing. note names. :loco:

[georgit]

i no yeah urs is funnier tho just cuz of the sheer fact u missed of the s lol! and th rockery thing was hilarious!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

limh

er. thanks...?

but that was funny. I have an Irwin Sparkes rock next to my al rock and my Martin rock in my Hoosier rockery. limh

[georgit]

yeah it was hilariousand emma with the pictures and stuff!?

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

yh she had to change Irwin though cause he didn't look Irwiny enough. :rofl:

[singing chick]

look i think that Irwin has a good eye for good singers like me singing chick (that explains alot!) or tricktolife maybe even Alfonso's_lil_fairy i know Irwin sparkes rock.:music:

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

ah you mean the other. cause theres no exclaimation mark.

[thetricktolife]

look i think that Irwin has a good eye for good singers like me singing chick (that explains alot!) or tricktolife maybe even Alfonso's_lil_fairy i know Irwin sparkes rock.:music:

Im confused... what have I done?

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

I think apparently you can sing.....

[thetricktolife]

Ooooh...

No I can't

haha!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

neither can I! hehe Irwin could give us lessons.

[miawallace]

Have you noticed how the 'Win is always carrying round a bottle of water?
He never seems to be without one-either it's the same bottle that he keeps refilling, or else he keeps a warehouse worth of bottles at home.

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

I think he does what I do. He buys water (cept I don't buy water) and he drinks it then he refills it till he forets and throws it away or buys another. :loco:

[Georgiee]

A warehouse of water bottles hahaha :)
You never know...

It's already been mentioned, but I've noticed his eyebrows move a lot. It's either just the one or both up together lol

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

one of his cute habits :love1:

[Georgiee]

one of his cute habits :love1:

Indeed! I noticed it on a youtube vid when they're at the Powerfm interview place.. :love:

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

limh yh he always has on at concerts. He's cute when he's sweaty. and in black. and when he laughs to himself. and when he bullys Martin. come to think of it he's always cute.:D:love1:

haha IRWIN! :love1::love::hug::love1::love::hug::love1::love:

[Georgiee]

Always cute = one of his habits? no? lol
I'm trying to think of other habits, but mostly they're just to do with his personality, like when he makes up random, funny lines like the 'sheep and other cattle' thing lol
He's pretty awesome tbh, so are Al and Martin, though i think it's very unfair when they bully Martin.. "SHUT UP" on Everyone Loves Lil Chris earlier, lol :D

[thetricktolife]

Always cute = one of his habits? no? lol
I'm trying to think of other habits, but mostly they're just to do with his personality, like when he makes up random, funny lines like the 'sheep and other cattle' thing lol
He's pretty awesome tbh, so are Al and Martin, though i think it's very unfair when they bully Martin.. "SHUT UP" on Everyone Loves Lil Chris earlier, lol :D

Me and Mia have been talking about this for months...
and it was only when Irwin slipped up and showed the public
that everyone has realised that we were right all along

did you know they dont pay him, he has to busk on the streets for money
and he gets tins of beans thrown over him... but what can you do with a bass and backing vocals eh? Not very much

[Georgiee]

Me and Mia have been talking about this for months...
and it was only when Irwin slipped up and showed the public
that everyone has realised that we were right all along

did you know they dont pay him, he has to busk on the streets for money
and he gets tins of beans thrown over him... but what can you do with a bass and backing vocals eh? Not very much


Jeez, how can Al and Irwin live with themselves? -tut tut-
I do believe Martin is very important to the band, he adds something.. I'm just not quite sure what!

[thetricktolife]

That jenesaqua (like the french phrase, but not spelt right)

He's the quiet one, that nobody knows much about

I love him!

[miawallace]

He adds Martin-ness, hat-ness, woolly-ness and cuteness to the band.
Plus, who would the other two bully if Martin wasn't around-they'd have to turn their attentions onto Sammy the Swallow.

[thetricktolife]

NOOOOO not Sammy!!

its bad enough that they are mean to Marty
let alone turning their hatred to Sammy, the parttimer!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

I know less about Al actually. I think. but I think he is cute when he puts Martin down. I feel sorry for Martin too though. but Martin doesn't mind. sorry that was so damn funnny

I don't care though
SHUTUP!
ok *hangs head*

:rofl:

sorry. I do love Martin just not as much as Irwin. OMG! I'm gunna kill Nikki and Aisling (go on ask why!)

[Georgiee]

Yes, yes, I see what you mean.
He's very cute, definitely something very lovable about him and his hats!
He does deal with his bullying very well lol

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

I know he's very sweet about it. I said a while back that I would go up to Martin and tell him he's not worthless.

ask ask ask.

[Georgiee]

I don't know who Nikki and Aisling are, but why are you going to kill them???
:O

[thetricktolife]

Yeah we need some more Al loving
it will happen very soon
there will be a big Al movement

but... until then

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

because when we went to Madame tussads we went into a big brother chair both thing where a woman asked us stuff and she asked us
'who do you want to see today'
and nikki said 'JACK SPARROW!'(she loves him)
and I said 'The guy I want to see isn't here. Cause he's not famous enough. they know who I'm talking about but I'm not going to say who it is'
then Ashy yelled 'IRWIN SPARKES! shes talking about Irwin Sparkes!'
she was like 'why are you embarassed?'
and they said 'she loves him'
and she said 'do you love him?'
and I was like 'well since they've already told you yes I do.'
then she was like 'do you want to marry him?'
and they yelled 'YES!she does she does'
and then I said'oh dear god. I'm gunna kill you for this#'
then after when we were leaving I started on them and she said 'don't worry. I won't tell that you love him'

so that is why.

[Georgiee]

Lol aww! That must have been very embarrassing for you!! Did the woman know who Irwin was??

Imagine if there were waxworks of Irwin, Al and Martin at Madame Tusauds, that would be SO AMAZING!
Irwin's could have a raised eyebrow, to keep on topic with the habits thing. Martin's would wear a spectacular hat and Al's would probably be naked or such like.....

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

limh yh I was thinking maybe when they get more famous (cause lets face it they are pretty famous for such a new band!) they'll be there [for me!] sorry.

[Georgiee]

For you?? Share pleasee! :P
Plenty of Hoosierness to go around I'm sure :love:

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

limh ok (but I get Irwin oh and so does thetricktolife and Irwinisthebombyey)

[Georgiee]

Aww, that's a shame because I do love Irwin so...
I'll have to sneak around to get in ..!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

limh you can be with Irwin. Cept he loves us more than you.

[Georgiee]

Waaah! Okay then, if you say soo...
I don't mind :)
Hey, we're talking about a waxwork here right? I wanna meet the real thing! :love:

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

nah I was kinda talking bout both. yes last time I went on a school night so I couldn't stay. but next time I'm going in the holidays so I can meet them! YAY! :D

[Georgiee]

Do you mean stay after the gig to try and meet them?
I've never tried that before lol..
October... 6 months..... aw :/

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

:D you never knew thats how you mainly meet them? limh :rofl: :loco: sorry anyways I ahve to go. I was supposed to go to bed about 3 hours ago (not that i ever do!) bye XXX

:hug: <----------I love that one

[Georgiee]

I've been to loads of gigs, but i've never bothered to stay... Well i did when i saw Mcfly, we waited ages and never saw them...
I should be off tooo.. Byebye!! x

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

yeah The Hoosiers love their fans so come out to meet them! YAY HOOSIERS!

[thetricktolife]

Im going to meet them next time!
Ive decided

and Irwin told me to bring a coat because they dont want me getting cold!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

I know that was so sweet! which reminds me I haven't bugged the in a while....:loco:

[thetricktolife]

I sent a message to Martin last night on myspace
well to The Hoosiers, but directed at Martin

hmmmmm
they have a week off now, so they should be able to check these things!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

they do? ha it SAYS they last logged in on the 3rd so they'll log in soon I think.

[thetricktolife]

Yeah that was about the last time I saw them signed in
They might be on tomorrow or something

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

yeah thats what I think (wow 4500 almost)

[Jacqui024]

Another habit;
Whenever Irwin is thinking about the reply for an interview, he kinda strokes his chin...
Erm i can't get any good screenshots partly cause i can't remember which vid's he does it in but i'll try get some later and edit them into here. All i have is the one Emma C took but this isn't the best to show the 'habit':





He also seems to 'bite' the side of his mouth like this:



Which i have a habit of doing too! If you ask my friends they'll tell ya :p I do it all the time, infact im doing it now! :lol:

AND you haven't got about Irwin and 'the finger' on here i don't think...
YOU CANT FORGET THE FINGER! :lol:

[irwinisthebombyey]

i added the finger one on ages ago and i just added the chin one on now! you are very notice-ish of the hoosier habits!

[Jacqui024]

Oh, oops sorry! I looked to see if it was there, hmm...:s: Sorry about that; i edited my comment up/down there and put in the 'biting cheek' one...

[irwinisthebombyey]

hee hee! i meant it as a compliment, that you noticed lots of things about them. i never noticed the biting of the cheek one! i'll add it on now. zoom.

[thetricktolife]

He touches his face when hes nervous and when hes thinking

He did it loads on Never Mind

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

Iriwn nervous? never thought it could happen!

[thetricktolife]

Yeah, when hes unsure

he was really nevous on never mind
he said that he felt a bit out of his depth

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

yeah....aww poor Irwin *cyberhugsIrwin*

[irwinisthebombyey]

awww! *cyberhugsIrwintoo* he said that he really embarassed himself but everyone thought he was amazing! he was probably just being modest.

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

yeah our modest Irwin

Our Irwin our strange strange Irwin! WE LOVE YOU! oh and Martin and Al yeah *shifty eyes*

[bexsta8]

What about Martin's random outbursts of hyperness? Like in the Radion One video and Cagematch
I don't know if anyone's said this on a previous page before me, but I can't be bothered to read 11 pages! :p

[Georgiee]

I read somewhere that Simon Amstell thought Irwin was going to be an idiot or something, but he told him he thought he was 'actually quite nice'..

But you guys probably already know that!!!
I loved it when he stood on the chair, 'Oh we laughed...' hehe

[Jacqui024]

I read somewhere that Simon Amstell thought Irwin was going to be an idiot or something, but he told him he thought he was 'actually quite nice'..

But you guys probably already know that!!!
I loved it when he stood on the chair, 'Oh we laughed...' hehe

Oh yea i remember reading that somewhere, something about him thinking Irwin would be a right c*** but he was actually quite nice or something...

Haha and that part when he get's up on the chair :lol: He's like 'i feel a little out of place now' and then makes it funnier by standing on the chair!! :p

[thetricktolife]

Yeah, and Irwin said that he was really embarrasing but luckly they edited out all the boring bits and made it look like he was funny

Awwww but I loved all the things he said!
Ticketmaster and the silly dancing!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ght :loco:
limh he would be funny anyway

[irwinisthebombyey]

when simon asked miquita if she was interested in anyone else on the panel and she wasn't i was amazed that she didn't love Irwin but glad, she doesn't deserve him!
i added irwin loving to say "don't cha know?" to his list of hoosier habits!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

yeah but according to someone I swear they siad that if they'd talked they would have blossomed. But I'm glad they didn't!

[irwinisthebombyey]

yeah but according to someone I swear they siad that if they'd talked they would have blossomed. But I'm glad they didn't!

yeah, she can't have him! we have alreay decided his future!

[bexsta8]

Miquita is a bit annoying. I don't know why though... It may just be because Simon talked too much to her and less to the other guests, which I thought was a bit unfair (especially that Kevin guy. Simon never talked to him!)

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

yeah, she can't have him! we have alreay decided his future!

yeah and he doesn't get a choice but he will thank us...sometime in our marridge :D

[irwinisthebombyey]

yeah, i felt sorry for kevin! Irwin will eventually thank us for our forced marridge to him, he'll realize that we are the best wives he could possibly ask for! 14 years younger than him and very supportive!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

I know what could be better?

I know someone the same age and who bullies him (how could that happen?) would be so not gd!

Ok I don't care I have no chance I'm doing my art and I'll just tell her I left it at my grandma's....cause I can not do it in 1 day!

[irwinisthebombyey]

I know what could be better?

I know someone the same age and who bullies him (how could that happen?) would be so not gd!

Ok I don't care I have no chance I'm doing my art and I'll just tell her I left it at my grandma's....cause I can not do it in 1 day!

awwwwww! what do you have to do for the homework?

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

I have to do some stupid sewing that she gave us 3 wks to do BUT I HAVE 1 DAY! sorry slightly stressed :(

but I took a love quiz on bebo
result: In Love
Your in love. It's adorable; it's almost sickening. You and your lover look at each other like you two are the only people in the world. When you two aren't together, you think of each other, and yearn for the next meeting.

haha

one of my friends isn't very suportive of the Irwin thing they sya to me
'You know if you ever did it to him it would be considered rape cause your so young' :(

not that I ever planned that (i always thought his choice :D)

[irwinisthebombyey]

I have to do some stupid sewing that she gave us 3 wks to do BUT I HAVE 1 DAY! sorry slightly stressed :(

but I took a love quiz on bebo
result: In Love
Your in love. It's adorable; it's almost sickening. You and your lover look at each other like you two are the only people in the world. When you two aren't together, you think of each other, and yearn for the next meeting.

haha

one of my friends isn't very suportive of the Irwin thing they sya to me
'You know if you ever did it to him it would be considered rape cause your so young' :(

not that I ever planned that (i always thought his choice :D)

my friends Alice said that to me!!!!! our friends are so alike.

i took that quiz too and it said the same thing! :love:

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

wow we really are true cyberwives and Irwins true loves :high5:

[irwinisthebombyey]

wow we really are true cyberwives and Irwins true loves :high5:

High5 we really really are. there is no one more devoted than us crazy fans right here in hoosierland!

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

exactly! GO US!

[irwinisthebombyey]

limh! we do rock quite a bit! :hat:

[Irwin Sparkes rock!]

haha the cool little...wierd thing. limh :hat: